Uber lies.


This is a great story and needs to be forwarded to everybody – including your taxi operators & drivers.

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Published on May 5, 2016Ok so I was looking at this graph put on Uber’s website today and thought it looked too good to be true. How amazing that Uber drivers make more than any other type of driver. 
But I knew from my own experience as a rider that Uber didn’t cost that much. In fact, Uber is pretty cheap if you’re a passenger. 
Sooooo…. how can uber be so cheap, and yet the drivers make so much money???
Now Uber has cut pay to drivers in Detroit to 24cents a mile , but we’re going to stick to the 90c for now. 
Uber takes 20% of the total fare from the driver for older drivers. Newer drivers get 25% taken. 
So we’re down to 67.5c per mile. 
Then you have to deduct tax: 
In some LA County’s, sales tax is as high as 10%, and Uber doesn’t withold taxes for you. The drives are responsible for keeping this money aside to pay the tax department in April. 
So with the 10% deducted, we’re down to (just over 60 cents) 60.75c
Now we need to factor in depreciation of the car. A car is an asset like anything else, and will eventually wear out and you’ll have to buy a new one. Every mile you drive decreases the value of your car and brings you that much closer to needing a new one. This is a big problem if you drive for a living, you’re going to need to buy a new car every two or three years and the cost of a new car is significant. 
The IRS estimates vehicle cost to drive a vehicle for work at $0.54 a mile . 
Broken down into 
Fuel costs @ an average of 12c per mile 
Depreciation at $0.24c per mile. 
Repairs, tyres, & maintainence at 9c per mile
Insurance, licence, registration, finance, fees – average out to around 9c per mile
So with 54c depreciation, repairs, and fuel accounted for, we’re down to just over 6c per mile that actually goes into your hands of drivers. 
Given that Uber also asks its drivers to buy things like bottles of water, gum, and chargers for it’s passengers, we can say for certain that driving for Uber pays well below minimum wage or even worse, costing drivers money (as is seen directly in this actual fare uber charged one of it’s drivers). 
So given the math is so bad, why does anyone drive for Uber?
Here’s an example of a post an Uber driver posted – he was $400 behind on the rent, and needed to make up some quick cash. In a way, uber is kind of like a loans scheme.  
Now for some people in desperate circumstances, what Uber’s offering might be an acceptable deal. But for most people, driving for Uber is a waste of time. I wish Uber would be more honest with people. By our calculations, the amount you’re making as an uber driver is nowhere near $19 per hour. If you drive 30 miles per hour at 6.75c per hour, you’re only making $2.00 per mile – by far the worst choice of any transportation job. 
This number is supported by Not Cool Uber, who have tracked hourly earnings to be around $2.89 and, after vehicle fees are taken into account, $0. 
Now – I’m not against car pooling. We all need transport, and I know I am a frequent user of Uber & Lyft. But I think that Uber is going about it in an unethical way, which makes me unethical for supporting them as a customer. 
Uber could easily fix this situation : by reducing their commission, by making rates more reasonable, by giving riders the option to Tip their drivers, or just by being transparent. But that would mean admitting that they’ve generated significant revenue from effectively exploiting their drivers. So the truth is, Uber benefits from maintaining this status quo. Uber is currently reported to be making $10 billion in revenue per year – and that money has to come from someone. 
Just don’t let that someone be you. 
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ATLOA have approached One Nation for possible support as they intend to promote candidates in SA.

Uber drivers subject to same strict legal requirements as taxi operators


Sarah Vogler, The Courier-Mail

January 25, 2017 12:30am

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UBER drivers would be forced to provide their ABNs and trip data to Queensland’s Transport Department as well as the Australian Taxation Office under a plan to ensure they are complying with the same tax laws as taxi licence holders.


It is understood Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe has been discussing the plan with both the Taxi Council of Queensland and Uber as part of consultation with the industry, which began earlier this month.


The Courier-Mail understands that under the Government’s second wave of industry reforms, all booking platforms would be required to share their trip data with the department and all providers would need to be associated with a booking platform, meaning no one would be exempt from the regulations.


Services that use GPS will also be compelled to provide ride data to the department, with any identifying details removed to ensure customer information is not shared.


It is understood that data would also be shared with the ATO.


All providers would also be required to have a physical presence in Australia and to be compliant with Australian tax law.


They must also be fully insured.


It comes after The Courier-Mail yesterday revealed Mr Hinchliffe was working with the taxi and limousine industries in a bid to quell discontent following last year’s legalisation of ride-sharing services such as Uber, with changes to compensation among measures being discussed.


A second tranche of measures to address the legalisation of ride-sharing services is due to be introduced into State Parliament early this year.



One Nation has seized on discontent within the taxi industry, with Senator Pauline Hanson and her newly minted state leader Steve Dickson yesterday addressing a taxi industry meeting and promising to address concerns, ensuring it will become a key election issue if the Government does not act.


Mr Hinchliffe confirmed the Government was looking at ways to ensure tax law compliance following concerns raised at the meetings he had held with the industry.


Ensuring compliance was a recommendation of the Varghese review into how the state should handle the emergence of ride-sharing services such as Uber.


The Commonwealth also announced a tax crackdown on ride-sharing services last year.


“The tax obligations of ride-share drivers have been among the matters raised with the Government during the workshops we’ve held with the taxi and limousine industry as part of ongoing consultation in relation to the new regulatory environment,” Mr Hinchliffe said.


“Taxi and limousine operators pay tax as do their employees. Ride-share drivers shouldn’t be any different.


“By making sure everybody pays the taxes they should be we’re helping to create a level playing field, and it also ensures the Australian Government has the funds it needs to continue contribute to the delivery of services and big-ticket infrastructure projects across Queensland.


“We are continuing our dialogue with industry on this issue and will have more to say in coming weeks.”


Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk yesterday ruled out increasing the pool of compensation available to affected limo and taxi licence holders, but confirmed moves were afoot to potentially change the amount available from within that $100 million pool.


Currently the compensation scheme allows for $20,000 per taxi service licence, capped at two licences per licence holder, and $10,000 per limousine service licence (other than special purpose limousines) with no licence cap.


A Big Risk – Fake Uber

‘A big risk’: Victorian police issue ‘fake Uber’ warning

Yahoo7 News on January 23, 2017, 5:54 pm


Victorian police have issued a ‘fake Uber’ warning after a number of unregistered drivers were offering lifts after the prestigious Portsea Polo event.


Senior Sergeant Miro Majstrorovic told NewsCorp the Mornington Peninsula passengers were taking “a big risk” by getting in the car of somebody who is not registered.


“A lot can go wrong and there’s not much police can do after the event,” he said. “There is no regulatory body to help police investigate or cameras in vehicles to record any problems.”


It’s believed at least two drivers offered lifts on January 14 from outside the Hotel Sorrento after 11pm.



Police are warning passengers to be wary of ‘fake Ubers’

One driver, in a BMW, offered to take four people to Mt Martha and Mt Eliza for $200 while a second man took three passengers to homes in Rye and Mt Martha for $150 after first stopping for pizza.


Drivers who operate a vehicle for hire without accreditation can face a fine of up to $1866.


An Uber spokesperson told NewsCorp there was a designated “safe wait zone” for passengers after the Portsea Polo event.


The spokesperson said it was up to passengers to ensure they do the appropriate safety checks including noting the make, model and licence plate and making it sure it matches the car details in the app.


The spokesperson said passengers should also ask drivers to confirm their first names before starting their journey.

Queensland News

More taxi assistance, lockout laws scrapped in early signs of election


Sarah Vogler & Madura McCormack, The Courier-Mail

Taxis’ latest weapon

MORE help could be on the way for taxi and limousine owners struggling after the legalisation of ridesharing services such as Uber as the Queensland Government moves to neutralise another contentious issue ahead of a looming election.


The Courier-Mail understands Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe and his department have been holding meetings with industry to discuss compensation and other measures to help ensure a level playing field following last year’s decision to legalise ridesharing services in Queensland.


The Government is due to introduce a second tranch of changes later this year to help the sector cope with reforms.


It is understood changes are being considered to the compensation available to affected licence holders while limousine licence holders could be allowed to keep their limo plates to distinguish their service from other options available to the public.


Currently the compensation scheme allows for $20,000 per taxi service licence, capped at two licences per licence holder, and $10,000 per limousine service licence (other than special purpose limousines) with no licence cap.


It follows changes to the lockout laws approved by Cabinet yesterday.



When asked about the changes, Mr Hinchliffe said he had been working with the industry to “build an even fairer system and a level playing field for all operators”.


“So far more than $18 million has been paid to eligible taxi and limousine licence holders through the Palaszczuk Government’s $100 million industry assistance package to help operators adjust to the industry’s new regulatory framework,” he said.


“That’s more than 746 applications paid to date to eligible licence holders. And there’s more on the way with the majority of the remaining 834 applications to the QRAA for assistance processed and awaiting payment.”


Mr Hinchliffe said the Government had been working with industry to ensure “a co-operative and productive approach to the second stage of the State Government’s reforms which are expected to be introduced to Parliament in the coming months”.


“I’m committed to continuing to work openly and constructively to achieve that for both the industry and passengers regardless of where they operate or travel in Queensland.”


One Nation seized on discontent within the taxi industry last year, following the ridesharing changes, and pledged to campaign in a state election on giving the industry a fairer deal.

New Taxi Operators Available

ATLOA have now become a contact point for introducing new Taxi Operators to Taxi License holders with the blessing of the TCSA.

If you are looking for a Taxi Lessee or have a Taxi License due for renewal and wish to help a new operator enter the Taxi industry, I encourage you to contact me on my mobile 0427 974901.

Regards Kym Woolford.

Lainie Anderson: Uber in Adelaide an X-tremely good taxi service

In response to today’s Advertiser Insight article below, I have sent the letter at the bottom of this page. I encourage you to reply to Lainie & the Advertiser using the links in the address bar of the letter. Regards Kym.


Lainie Anderson, Sunday Mail (SA)

January 21, 2017 9:00pm

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I CAUGHT a cab the other day. The car was immaculate, basically brand new.

The driver was friendly and fascinating – he’d once represented the Eritrean soccer team and sought asylum with his teammates after a World Cup qualifier in Uganda.

We barely had time to fasten our seatbelts before he offered us all free bottles of water and mint lollies.

You can probably guess this wasn’t a traditional taxi.

It was UberX – the perfectly-timed accompaniment to Adelaide’s growing reputation as one of the world’s must-visit cities.

We were introduced to UberX three years ago in Los Angeles and couldn’t believe how convenient, quick and cheap it was.

The drivers all raved about the opportunity, too – how they’d been able to beat unemployment or underemployment with a job that allowed them to work when they wanted and pocket the majority of each fare.

To be honest, I initially doubted we’d see the same benefits here in Adelaide, mainly because of our lack of population density and our traditional reluctance to embrace anything new.

A man holding a smartphone showing the Uber app.

Despite the taxi industry’s continuing keenness to spread doubts about the quality of UberX, it does work here and it works really well.

If you’ve never tried it, here’s a quick explanation.

You download the Uber app on your phone and create a profile which includes your online banking details.

When you need a cab, you enter your destination and the app instantly tells you how much the UberX fare will cost and how long before a driver will arrive. In inner-metro areas, it’s usually within minutes.

You click on your preferred driver (they’re rated by customers after every fare, so you know what standard to expect) and then you watch the car heading your way on the map until it pulls up beside you on the kerb.

When you reach your destination, no money changes hands but, within minutes, you receive an email with a receipt of the fare that’s been debited from your nominated bank account.

It’s that easy.

And as I said, it’s cheap. A cab fare from the Adelaide Hills to the airport has been slashed from $70 to less than $45.

Late-night fares from the city to outer-metro areas such as Bridgewater have been almost halved to around $30, making a big night out in the city much more enticing.

Multiply that by people signing up to Uber across Adelaide (not to mention all the interstate and international tourists who can now use the same Uber app in 555 cities worldwide) and that must have flow-on benefits for Adelaide’s night-time economy too.

Now, while singing the praises of UberX, I have no desire to see the demise of the traditional taxi industry.

I agree that all UberX drivers should be properly accredited or face fines and sympathise with taxi companies trying to compete when they’re still paying down exorbitant licence plate fees and overheads.

Just as I sympathise with traditional hotels competing with Airbnb, newspapers competing with free online media outlets, retailers competing with online stores and city restaurants competing with small bars and food vans.

How do the best businesses survive in this rapidly changing world?

By focusing on their strengths, value-adding to remain price competitive, enhancing the customer experience and fiercely promoting their long-established brands.

Therein lies part of the problem for the taxi industry in South Australia: over the years, the brand has been eroded by ever-rising fees that haven’t been matched by ever-improving customer service.

Of course, there are some great taxi drivers out there in cabs that are a pleasure to be in but the sad truth is that there are many others bringing the industry brand down.

I read this week that taxi companies have suffered a 15 per cent hit to passenger numbers since Uber arrived on the scene last year – and I’m surprised it’s not more.

Maybe it’s time they focused less on Uber and more on giving their customers an exceptional experience worth writing about.

From: Kym2

Date: 22/01/2017 7:00:05 PM

To: lainie.anderson@news.com.au

Cc: Advertiser

Subject: Insight 22/01/17

Hello Lainie,

I have just read your Insight article in the 22nd of January 2017 Advertiser and although it appears you have written a balance article to the il-informed, I need to make a correction to it.

Uber or UberX are NOT legal in Adelaide.

If you do not believe me, ask the DPTEI or Minister Stephen Mullighan and his Chief of Staff, Mr. John Bistrovic by phoning  8402 1992.

You are promoting an illegal company and service, and whilst you do that you put the public at risk beside destroy the livelihoods of many small businesses.

Uber are cheaper because they are illegal, both the booking service and the vehicles.  They also are not adhering to the safety regulations to keep the public safe as required by the State Government and are subsidising fares and fines to the tune of 2 Billion dollars in 2016 world wide.

How can any legitimate industry compete with this.

I respect your opinion but you should not be promoting an illegal service. What’s your next promotion, buying fish from illegal fisherman of maybe prescription drugs from the back of a car, use an unlicensed electrician or plumber?

Regards Kym Woolford.



Taxi drivers call for MPs to oppose industry changes

Emma Watson, Mordialloc Chelsea Leader

January 18, 2017 3:15pm

RETIRED taxi driver Ken Benton believes the taxi licence he bought 30 years ago to fund his retirement will soon be worth nothing.

As the Victoria United Taxi Industry issued a plea to State MPs not to vote planned taxi industry changes through parliament, Mr Benton said his retirement dream had all but vanished and slammed the government’s proposals as theft.

The 65 year-old gave up driving taxis about 10 years ago, but his wife still owns the perpetual taxi licence the pair bought in 1988 so they’d never have to rely on the pension.

“There are people out there, like my wife and I, who have got one or more taxi plate,” Mr Benton said.

“I guarantee they all had the same thought in mind — that when I retire I don’t have to rely on the pension and when I die I have a major asset I can hand over to my children, which could make their life easier.

“That’s what we all strive to do. The government has stepped in and stopped that.”

In August the government detailed plans to establish a single commercial passenger industry in which controversial rideshare services would be legalised.

A “simpler” registration system would be implemented; all existing licences dumped to “reduce the cost of travel for passengers” and a levy equivalent to $2 a trip charged to fund the new system.

The government has promised to compensate taxi licence owners up to $100,000 for their first licence and $50,000 for up to three more.

Mr Benton, who lives in Carrum, said he’d watched the monthly income his licence generated drop $1200 since an independent inquiry into the industry began in 2011.

Ken Benton in his taxi driver days.

Acting Public Transport Minister Jaala Pulford said the government had announced “hundreds of millions of dollars to assist licence owners affected by these reforms — the largest transition and support package of any state in Australia.”

But Victoria United Taxi Industry’s Jacob Revzin urged MPs to oppose the legislation.

“They take away from us assets and income, so what are they making of us? Slaves who work hard all life for nothing,” Mr Revzin said.

The government has established a $50 million ‘fairness fund’ for licence holders who may experience significant financial hardship as a result of the changes. Applications are open and will close on April 30.